Comments on: The Prestige of HR http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/ Tue, 22 May 2012 14:20:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: 3 Ways Entry Level HR Professionals Can Be More Relevant « UpstartHR http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/#comment-68 3 Ways Entry Level HR Professionals Can Be More Relevant « UpstartHR Sat, 23 May 2009 17:57:31 +0000 http://upstarthr.wordpress.com/?p=75#comment-68 [...] met dozens of HR professionals online.  The ones I’ve met online are all superstars (okay, not all).  I’ve been wondering for a few weeks about how I can propose a new program in the [...] [...] met dozens of HR professionals online.  The ones I’ve met online are all superstars (okay, not all).  I’ve been wondering for a few weeks about how I can propose a new program in the [...]

]]> By: How do you measure your success? « PseudoHR http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/#comment-67 How do you measure your success? « PseudoHR Sat, 16 May 2009 00:30:34 +0000 http://upstarthr.wordpress.com/?p=75#comment-67 [...] how do you measure your success in your professional career? Is it when you get that certification, some might disagree. Is it when you land that job with the corner [...] [...] how do you measure your success in your professional career? Is it when you get that certification, some might disagree. Is it when you land that job with the corner [...]

]]> By: Kerry http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/#comment-66 Kerry Wed, 13 May 2009 18:07:03 +0000 http://upstarthr.wordpress.com/?p=75#comment-66 I'm not sure it tells me about their work ethic, but it tells me whether they are good managers of their own careers. Those letters don't make you smarter, but they do make you more marketable (not to everyone, but to some). It also indicates an acceptance of the fact that different things appeal to different people. I don't personally find that SPHRs are necessarily smarter than other folks, but I recognize that some people do think that. That's why I took the test. I realize that other people have different values than me in terms of what constitutes a great candidate for an HR leadership role, and I've incorporated that realization into my career management strategy. It's a pragmatic approach, and pragmatism is something I look for in candidates. I’m not sure it tells me about their work ethic, but it tells me whether they are good managers of their own careers. Those letters don’t make you smarter, but they do make you more marketable (not to everyone, but to some).

It also indicates an acceptance of the fact that different things appeal to different people. I don’t personally find that SPHRs are necessarily smarter than other folks, but I recognize that some people do think that. That’s why I took the test. I realize that other people have different values than me in terms of what constitutes a great candidate for an HR leadership role, and I’ve incorporated that realization into my career management strategy. It’s a pragmatic approach, and pragmatism is something I look for in candidates.

]]> By: More About HR Certification Exams « UpstartHR http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/#comment-65 More About HR Certification Exams « UpstartHR Wed, 13 May 2009 15:36:11 +0000 http://upstarthr.wordpress.com/?p=75#comment-65 [...] UpstartHR Free Resources ← The Prestige of HR [...] [...] UpstartHR Free Resources ← The Prestige of HR [...]

]]> By: humanresourcespufnstuf http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/#comment-64 humanresourcespufnstuf Wed, 13 May 2009 15:09:04 +0000 http://upstarthr.wordpress.com/?p=75#comment-64 Ben, point well taken, however in my opinion it may be a good tool for folks earlier on in their career. I may just be a certi-phobe (I'm claiming that term right now!), but I can tell you when I was in the Army, I never wore any of my badges, medals ect. and when in the field often did not wear any rank ensignia (a bit of a no-no, but overlooked because of results), people knew I was a leader and followed my based on my actions, not anything else. To take that to the next level, I have a boat load of recruiting certifications. I have never put any on my resume, mentioned them in an interview, or included them in an online profile. I let my results speak for themselves, which for me (please never construe anything I say as being suitable for anyone else) has worked well. Ben, point well taken, however in my opinion it may be a good tool for folks earlier on in their career.

I may just be a certi-phobe (I’m claiming that term right now!), but I can tell you when I was in the Army, I never wore any of my badges, medals ect. and when in the field often did not wear any rank ensignia (a bit of a no-no, but overlooked because of results), people knew I was a leader and followed my based on my actions, not anything else.

To take that to the next level, I have a boat load of recruiting certifications. I have never put any on my resume, mentioned them in an interview, or included them in an online profile. I let my results speak for themselves, which for me (please never construe anything I say as being suitable for anyone else) has worked well.

]]> By: Ben Eubanks http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/#comment-63 Ben Eubanks Wed, 13 May 2009 14:50:20 +0000 http://upstarthr.wordpress.com/?p=75#comment-63 @April That's one of the reasons I went for mine. I knew it would be beneficial when I started looking for work in the HR field. @Kerry So would you say that a cert is more useful for determining a person's work ethic or conscientiousness than their suitability for an HR position? I think that's an interesting point to explore in a future post! Oh, and we all know that chocolate chip cookie dough is the best. :-) @April That’s one of the reasons I went for mine. I knew it would be beneficial when I started looking for work in the HR field.

@Kerry So would you say that a cert is more useful for determining a person’s work ethic or conscientiousness than their suitability for an HR position? I think that’s an interesting point to explore in a future post!

Oh, and we all know that chocolate chip cookie dough is the best. :-)

]]> By: Kerry http://upstarthr.com/the-prestige-of-hr/#comment-62 Kerry Wed, 13 May 2009 14:16:57 +0000 http://upstarthr.wordpress.com/?p=75#comment-62 I got certified when I was an independent HR consultant, nine years ago. Some people think that if you have letters after your name, you're smart. It was just one of a number of things I did to try and differentiate myself in what was then a crowded marketplace of independent HR professionals. When I'm hiring an HR person, I don't necessarily see certification as an indication of proficiency per se. I do see it as a sign that this person is doing everything possible to make him/herself marketable to a wide range of employers. In my experience, people who do that tend to be better at managing their internal marketability as well (i.e. inside the company for which they work), and that's a plus for me. But really, I have never understood the strong emotions around this issue. It's like arguing about which is the best flavor of ice cream. I got certified when I was an independent HR consultant, nine years ago. Some people think that if you have letters after your name, you’re smart. It was just one of a number of things I did to try and differentiate myself in what was then a crowded marketplace of independent HR professionals.

When I’m hiring an HR person, I don’t necessarily see certification as an indication of proficiency per se. I do see it as a sign that this person is doing everything possible to make him/herself marketable to a wide range of employers. In my experience, people who do that tend to be better at managing their internal marketability as well (i.e. inside the company for which they work), and that’s a plus for me.

But really, I have never understood the strong emotions around this issue. It’s like arguing about which is the best flavor of ice cream.

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